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HOYER'S VALUE IN 2012

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Brian Hoyer will be a Restricted Free Agent as the Patriots move into the 2012 League Year. The 6'2" 215 pound back up QB has been a constant presence on the Patriots sideline for 3 years. Hoyer was an UFA out of Michigan State. In 2009 NFLDRAFTSCOUT had ranked him as the 9th best QB in the draft. Once again the Patriots found a diamond in the rough similar to Brady and Cassel in the past. The Patriots have three choices:

1) They can sign him to a multiyear contract

2) They can tender him and allow him to negotiate with other teams in exchange for a draft pick

3) They can sign him or tender him and trade him before the Draft.

Hoyer will turn 27 during the 2012 season and has shown the potential to be either a starter or a solid backup in the NFL. Mike Lombardi from the NFL network felt that Hoyer presented a better value for teams then Kevin Kolb last year. Here is an excerpt from Rotoworld:

NFL Network's Michael Lombardi believes Patriots backup Brian Hoyer makes a better trade target for quarterback-needy teams than Eagles backup Kevin Kolb.

That's not to say Lombardi believes Hoyer is a better QB, just that the Eagles believe they can get "a great price" for Kolb. "If teams evaluate New England's Week 17 game against Miami," said Lombardi, "they'd see that Hoyer demonstrates the skills needed to be a starter." In 42 career attempts, Hoyer has posted a 61.9 completion rate, 6.3 yards per attempt, and 77.9 passer rating. His passer rating in preseason games is just north of 95.0.

This season Hoyer went 1-1 for 22 yards to Gronk. While his limited role might cause some team to pass, he has value in many non-starting ways as well. He has been widely praised for his ability to mimic other QBs on the scout team to prepare the Defense for the upcoming week. He has shown the ability to grasp a complex offense. Finally, he has studied under Belichick and Brady.

"I think the more experience you get, the more you can focus on the defense as opposed to trying to think about what the play is so you can react more," Hoyer said. "And I think that's what comes with more experience, but, like I've always said, there's nothing that compares to real game experience. To get out there for the first game and have some success feels good."

If the Patriots sign Hoyer to a multiyear contract it would likely mirror the salaries of some other backups in the NFL. Matt Lienhart signed for 2 years 5.5MM with the Texans. Vince Young signed for 1 year 4MM with the Eagles. Charlie Whitehurst signed for 2 years 8MM with the Seahawks. Hoyer's most recent contract paid him 1.19MM for 3 years. To lock him up for the next 2-3 years the Pats would most likely need to pay him an average of 3MM per year. This fits within the current Patriots salary cap without issue. Ryan Mallett signed a 4 year 2.948MM contract in 2011. The big question comes down to who do the Patriots see as the better long term backup.

If the Patriots tender Hoyer it would be with a First Round Tender (at 2.611MM and retain first refusal) or a Second Round Tender (at 1.835MM and also retain first refusal).

The Patriots are expected to tender restricted free agent QB Brian Hoyer "at least" at the second-round level in March. The Pats are stacked at the position with 2011 third-rounder Ryan Mallett also developing, but Bill Belichick won't risk losing an asset with a low tender. That won't prevent the Patriots from listening to trade offers, however. Hoyer will draw more league-wide interest in 2013 when he reaches unrestricted free agency. Feb 8 - 11:17 AM Source: ESPN Boston

The most similar situation to Hoyer is Charlie Whitehurst. He was tendered at a Third Round pick last year and then traded to Seattle for a swap of Second Round positions (40th and 60th pick) and a 2011 Third Round pick. This year there is no Third Round Tender. I might be alone in my thought process, but I think a team like Denver (Quinn is on the way out), Green Bay (Flynn is all but gone), or even San Diego (Volek will be 36 in April) might have interest in a quality backup with no baggage. He represents good value at this point because he's not an Unrestricted Free Agent and the Tender value will impact his ability to negotiate.

The Patriots could mimic the Chargers and trade him for the best offer after he signs the Tender as well. I'd be looking for a Second Round pick or maybe a Third and conditional Second in 2013. This would be a good deal for both sides and put Hoyer in a better position for a future starting role as well. I believe Mallett is the better and cheaper backup option for the Pats for the next three years. I'd also be excited if the Patriots maneuvered in the draft to pick up Case Keenum in the Sixth or Seventh Round.

This is my first post and I'd be interested in your thoughts.



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They'll likely do a high 2nd round tender to protect the investment.

Hoyer has survived as #2 even against veteran backups. With the tender, other teams could sign him if they gave us the picks, or they could work out an alternate trad to get him. Additionally, Hoyer would have to be willing to work out a long term deal past the one year tender.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 13, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

This

If we keep him, we should maybe give him some real-game playing time as if he does anything close to what Flynn did that’ll really increase his value.

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by New Century Silver on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Great first post.

Hoyer looks like one of the best backup quarterbacks in the league right now and that’s good news for the Pats. I think that both the Chargers or Broncos seem like a good landing spot for Hoyer and they would be willing to give up draft picks for a serviceable QB. I would also like to add the Bears to this list as they always seem to need some help at the position. But I believe it all depends on how the coaching staff views Mallett’s development and how ready he is to play if he needs to.

by Offensive Jazz Interference on Feb 14, 2012 7:31 AM EST reply actions  

The issue here is Brady is on the back nine

BB must back up Brady effectively and Hoyer is the one. Mallet is two years away at least. If they traded Hoyer, which I doubt, BB would have bring back a Testeverde type veteran to back up Brady. I just don’t see it. Hoyer is the man.

by tstorey1 on Feb 17, 2012 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure I agree

I don’t think the Patriots would have taken Mallett in the Third Round if they didn’t see value. The value comes from the ability to be a number 2 or to groom him for trade. Ryan Mallett played in the SEC and in his Senior year at Arkansas threw for 3353 yards , 33 touchdowns, and only 3 interceptions. His completion rate was almost 64%. He was the QB for the Coaches All SEC Second Team in 2009 and 2010 (Tebow and Newton were the First Team picks in those years). He broke 16 Arkansas records in 2009 alone. In fact the only reason that pushed him into the Third Round was a concern about drug rumors that have not resurfaced since he transitioned into the NFL. In comparison Hoyer had a 4 year stint at Michigan State finishing as an Honorable Mention All Big 10 Quarterback. He threw for 2725 yards with 20 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 2007. In fact, playing in the SEC Malletts numbers are better in 2 years than all of Hoyers career at Michigan State combined. The kid has a cannon for an arm and has impressed even BB with his football knowledge. If you don’t groom him at some point you lose the value you drafted.

by waldoon on Feb 17, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

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