WR: Who's the best fit?
The hot topic for Patriots fans is the WR position. Some people think we should look at the draft. Others want to win now and ask for a splashy free agent acquisition. Others want Moss because they just woke up after hibernation (lasting since 2007). Let's take a look at this free agent pool and their merits for the Patriots.
1. We have a big superstar TE (Gronkowski)
2. We have a WR/TE (Hernandez)
3. A superstar WR (Welker) and a backup (Edelman)
Aaaannd....that's about it.
Ocho and Branch are both questionable. I'm not going to detail their merits here. Let's for now assume that neither come back or if they do - in a very limited backup role. Let's also assume that Welker is on the team (deal or tag)
We desperately need a more conventional WR. We need more speed. We need more height. In short, we need a playmaker, a spark, a big target with breakaway speed.
Who fits that description?
Randy Moss: Pros: Big, tall, still decently fast. We know what he is capable of and what he's like. Cons: We know what he is capable of and what he's like. He can take plays off, have poor attitude, expects a certain amount of balls thrown him. Would he be an upgrade over current WR talent. Verdict: Yes, if on a cheap contract.
Vincent Jackson: Pros: Freakishly big, tall, and athletic. Capable of beating double teams and scoring on any coverage. Cons: Character issues, diva attitude, very expensive. Verdict: Look into him, but he won't get enough touches here. If he swallows his ego and checkbook, then by all means. No. The Eagles will overpay him to replace Desean Jackson.
DeSean Jackson: Pros: Freakishly fast, very talented. Cons: Immature, drops balls now and then, mental issues, diva attitude, very expensive. Verdict: No.
Mario Manningham: Young and talented. Obviously we know. Cons: None that I can see. Giants will try to resign him and other teams may bid higher than we're willing to go. There's the element of going from a SB winner to the opponent. Doesn't happen. Verdict: Make a run. He's only 6-0. I'd rather go for someone taller.
Laurent Robinson: Quietly racked up 800+ yards. Is used to being a bit player. Has star qualities. Came up the hard way and doesn't have the diva attitude. Has the conventional stats (6'2" height, decent speed). But one year of production is very risky. How much was it a result of playing with Austin and Bryant? Verdict: Do due dilligence and check how much he'll cost. I'd consider him.
Robert Meachem: 6'2", 210 pounds. Good height and speed, makes some ridiculous catches, is fine with being a supporting player (comes from multi-pronged Saints O). Cons: Might be expensive. Verdict: I want. He's only 27. Proven production.
Brandon Lloyd: Pros: Can be explosive, has good speed. Cons: Only one stellar year, struggled with Rams, spoke against the Tebow and was traded away, attitude issues, only 6 foot high, already 30 years old, not sure if he's comfortable being a 4th option or even a 3rd option. His agent is Condon whom the Patriots never talk to. Verdict: Out. It depends on how much each side wants each other.
Reggie Wayne: Wants out of Indy, ultimate team player, immense respect from BB, extremely talented. Cons: only 6 foot, may want one last big payday, said he'd like to keep playing with Peyton, is 33 (younger than Ocho though). Verdict: I'll offer him less money and a 2-year deal in exchange for the chance to play on a SB team with Brady.
DRAFT
Michael Floyd: Great height but not much speed. Might not be a #1 receiver.
Justin Blackmon: Out of reach.
Alshon Jeffery: Similar to Floyd.
Mohammed Sanu: Great option! Speed and height! Amazing catch radius and ability. Great production. Comes from Rutgers, a program BB LOVES. Verdict: If we're taking a WR in the draft, I'd take him.
What are your thoughts?
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i just dont know
moss doesnt get separation though so he seems like a no
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My ranks:
1: Moss, if he can do anywhere near what he did in 2007/2008/2009 without the attitude.
2: Wayne, if otherwise, and cost is low enough
3: DSJackson, if he’s willing to behave himself
4: Meachem, simply here because I don’t know about him. Maybe he should be higher or lower, IDK
5: Draft someone, anyone
6: Everyone else is a NO, especially VJackson and Manningham
7: Technically Lloyd is in the top 3, but thats not happening.
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by New Century Silver on Feb 15, 2012 2:18 AM EST reply actions
Option 9 doesn't sound bad...
Kendall Wright would be a perfect fit for New England IMO.
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He's short though. Only 5-11. My take is that
WRs today are all trending taller. See Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Demaryius Thomas, Robert Meachem, Vincent Jackson, Legedu Naanee, Wallace, Burress, Stevie Johnson, Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, Marques Colston, etc. etc. etc.
I’d pass.
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Meachem and Colston are the only WRs
who played in a similar scheme the pats play though.
If Wright is a route runner, he will succeed in the pats system. History tells us that the WRs we grab who are raw in route running (Tate, Price, Jackson) do not succeed as well as those who are (Moss and Welker in 07, Branch, Edelman, Gaffney).
Of the free agents that are great route runners: VJ, Wayne, Lloyd, Meachem, and Colston.
I would try to get Meachem seeing as how he is younger, and the Saints would want to keep Colston. If not Meachem then Lloyd because he is only 30. Then Wayne.
But thats me.
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not quite right with that
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by freeland1787 on Feb 15, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Okay.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I kind of want Wayne, actually
but if we get him it’ll have to be Wayne + someone else.
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by New Century Silver on Feb 15, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Not necessarily having to be tall
There are some smaller, but explosive players that are doing very well. While Wright may not be tall, he brings the outside speed that could greatly benefit New England. He’d also be much cheaper than many of those free agent WRs.
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Wright is electric
I’d take him at 27 in a heartbeat.
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by sweetjesusihatethejets on Feb 15, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'd love Wright at #27. The guy is a burner who gets downfield and also makes people miss.
Guys dont have to be tall to be a deep threat. See Jackson, DeSean
Guys, here's a theory
We may get a different WR than from years past with McDaniels back. Who were McDaniel’s WRs? Lloyd, Royal as FAs. He picked Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas in the draft. Both are now stars. Maybe BB will be influenced by that input as well.
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McD's only WR pick was Chad Jackson
suffered the same fate Taylor Price did
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by freeland1787 on Feb 15, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I'm saying his most recent picks
have been successes and more importantly
are a different prototype than what the Patriots usually pick. Maybe his input will cause BB to consider drafting WRs earlier and look for more height and speed.
Lakers and Patriots forever.
I think it's not a case of either or...
…I suspect we have the chance to get a less-heralded player like Barndon Lloyd would be a very nice smaller option and an upgrade over Branch with some ability to stretch the field.
And I think we will take a hard look at any of the following in the first two rounds of the draft depending on if they are available – Michael Floyd, Alshon Jeffery, Mohamed Sanu, Huron Criner and Nick Toon
However, this draft is also rather deep when it comes to WR’s – I could also see us looking at WR a bit later like Gerell Robinson or Marvin McNutt to just mention two options.
Lloyd is pretty much off the table, unfortunantly =/
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by New Century Silver on Feb 15, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
A rookie seldom mentioned
is Rueben Randle. Why is that? He appears like an option with a late-first or our first second-rounder.
Anyone with a better read on him than I have?
here. lol
http://www.patspulpit.com/2012/2/7/2781673/rueben-randle-wr-out-of-lsu
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
oh well
guess I’m as good searching Pats Pulpit as I am picking up used socks from the floor (just got a little constructive critique from wifey)?
thanks
No its completeley fine. I don't search for posts either.
I only lol’d because I’m thinking the same thing. Despite that I made a post about him, no one seems to be mentioning him a lot.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Reuben will be a helluva WR
A lot of LSU fans are sad because had he stayed, he would have been the first WR taken next year. He has that much potential and the kid managed to put up great stats when our passing offense was the wrong side of atrocious. It would be crazy to go from Jordan Jefferson (I bet there are plenty of HS QBs that are better than him) to Tom Brady.
Being a friend of Sanu
and someone who has worked out with him on the gridiron, I would pick him in a heartbeat. He’s just awesome. He’s taken subpar quarterback play and still had great production. Also, he is a huge threat out of the backfield. This year, not so much, because he only ran the ball 4 times. But the two years prior to that? He had over 300 yards rushing both years on 60 carries for a total of 9 touchdowns. Can you imagine the things McDaniels could do with that? Line up Sanu at quarterback and Hernandez at halfback, and just watch the other teams’ defensive coordinators give up hope. He has a tremendous work ethic, is incredibly down to Earth, and always puts the team first. If he’s still there at 31, I think the Pats should seriously consider using that extra first.
I have a feeling the 49ers are going to draft him, though, so I guess the Pats will just have to get somebody through free agency, and use a 2nd round pick or later.
One of the players I’m pretty high on is Juron Criner. 6-4, 220 or so (he gained weight at the Senior Bowl, but it looked like solid muscle.) and he runs crisp routes. He can be a great acquisition in the third or fourth round, but I think after the combine and his pro day, he’s going to get a boost maybe into the late second round/early-to-mid third round. So, If he’s there at one of the Pats’ picks, and there aren’t any other great picks to take, I’d certainly take him. He was a teammate of Gronkowski at Arizona, too.
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I would take either one.
I wouldn’t be surprised if BB moved up from the 2nd round into the EARLY 2nd round to grab Sanu if he is still there. I think 9ers are going to get Kendall Wright.
If we are to use both 1st rounders though, and trade the 2nd round for a future first, then I would love to have either Sanu or Rueben Randle.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Nick Toon is also good in the 2nd round.
I think his father was a NFL Hall of Famer too….. not sure.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I forgot about Kendall Wright
I think he’s going to be a very good player in the NFL. He’s got great speed and body control.
Also, I have a feeling Belichick is going to double up on WR this year. In 2006 they doubled up on TE, and it didn’t work. In 2008, they doubled up on linebacker (Mayo and Crable) and cornerback (Wheatley and Wilhite.) 2010, naturally, they doubled up on TE again and linebacker (Spikes and Cunningham) 2011, doubled up on running back. So, I think they’re going to double up on WR.
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by BigRussNovak on Feb 16, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
WR and Secondary help this year imo.
but who knows. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I think we need 2 outside guys
Wes Welker is great but he isn’t naturally a great compliment to the 2 TE offense because he works inside the numberswhere the TEs do most of their damage, while not stretch the field so the defense really only has to cover the just inside the numbers (which is still not easy). If we can get 2 speed guys on the outside with the 2 TEs inside we have a dangerously balanced passing game. The defense cannot just neglect the deep ball anymore, and will be forced to cover the entire field and play us straight up. Once that happens that is where this offense starts scoring at least 24 pts on any defense it plays and wen can outscore anyone.
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by Chris Kole on Feb 16, 2012 7:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm starting to develop a mancrush
on Mohamed Sanu
the guy plays every snap like his life is on line and he plays physical and delivers crushing blocks while at the same time seemingly being able to stretch the field – that’s a guy I want on my team.
Hoping the BB love for Rutgers-players makes him go in that direction.

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