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Jimmy Graham Vs. Gronkowsi

Copied And pasted from B/R. Just wanted opinion for 2011-2012 dream team,
I'm stuck on this one. Please give me reasons why you think who is better!

The question is simple. Who is the best tight end in the NFL: Jimmy Graham or Rob Gronkowski?

Gronk and Graham have taken the NFL by storm this season and elevated themselves to the head of the tight-end class—a class that still includes Jermichael Finley, Jason Witten and Antonio Gates.

I’m sure there’s going to be objection from loyal Gates fans down in the SoCal area, but the fact is he’s taken a back seat to these two.

Anyway, back to the matter at hand. It’s time to break these two studs down.

Graham, the former Miami Hurricane, has 1,101 yards and eight touchdowns on the season, and had a stretch of four straight games earlier in the season in which he recorded at least 100 receiving yards.

Graham leads the New Orleans Saints in yards, catches, touchdowns, yards per game and targets—simply amazing for a tight end—and in an offense that features seven players with at least 50 targets.

At 6’6” and 260 pounds with 4.50 speed, he’s a matchup nightmare for linebackers because they can’t keep up with him, and corners and safeties are just not big enough to compete with him for the ball.

He’s an exceptional athlete, and along with the help of Drew Brees, he is quickly becoming a superstar in the league.

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Far north from the reaches of the Big Easy, Rob Gronkowski is redefining the tight end position in his own way.

Gronk currently ranks second on the New England Patriots in receptions (71), yards (1,088), yards per game (83.7) and targets (100)—trailing only Wes Welker in all those categories.

What he doesn’t trail Welker in is touchdowns. He leads the entire NFL with 15 receiving scores and 16 total end zone trips.

This past Sunday, he broke the single-season record for touchdowns by a tight end, previously held by Gates and Vernon Davis, when he scored his 14th touchdown on an 11-yard pass from Tom Brady.

He finished the record-setting day with 160 yards and two scores in the Pats' win over the Washington Redskins.

He actually has a small chance of becoming only the third pass-catcher in NFL history to reach 20 touchdowns—something that would be unprecedented coming from the tight-end position.

And much like Graham in New Orleans, Gronk has his own all-pro QB in Tom Brady, helping make his run to superstardom as likely as Graham’s.

What does all this tell us? Stats say a lot, but do they tell everything? No. They don’t.

The hard-nosed stats person will argue Gronk is the best TE in the NFL because he leads the league in touchdowns and it doesn’t look like anyone can stop him.

Who is the best tight end in the NFL?

  • Rob Gronkowski

    62.0%
  • Jimmy Graham

    34.1%
  • Other

    3.9%
  • Total votes: 413

    The out-of-the-box thinker may argue in Graham’s favor, because while he doesn’t have the flashy touchdown numbers, he leads all Saints receivers in every major statistical pass-catching category—and also leads Gronkowski in receptions and yards.

    They’re both on pace to eclipse Kellen Winslow Sr.’s TE record of 1,290 receiving yards, which he set back in 1980.

    With the single-season touchdown record broken already in Week 14, there’s no reason both of these guys shouldn't break the yardage record.

    What may decide who’s the better player are the fundamentals, like blocking.

    Graham is what you would call the "new-age" tight end. He’s long and lean and is built more for running routes than run blocking.

    Gronk, on the other hand, is very much a throwback. He’s a big guy with speed, but punishes defenders when he finishes off a play—drawing comparisons to former New York Giants great Mark Bavaro.

    He also thrives on run-blocking, as Nate Davis from USA Today reports in a recent interview with Pats head coach Bill Belichick.

    "He likes to block and takes pride in having a good block. He gets excited about that. I think he enjoys that part of the game. He does a pretty good job," Belichick said.

    He seems very polished in this part of the game, in which Graham still has room to improve.

    Either way you look at it, whether you’re Gronkin’ or you’re Grahamin’, you really can’t go wrong. They’re both amazing.



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    Isn't this

    like 3 months old?

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    by New Century Silver on Feb 19, 2012 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

    Yea, so

    maybe then there was a debate, but now that Gronk has all the records I don’t see how you argue for Graham.

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    by New Century Silver on Feb 19, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

    Graham is 2nd best TE

    Gronk = #1 baby

    Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
    Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
    Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"

    by Chris Kole on Feb 19, 2012 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

    Even if you cut Gronkowski's TD's in half

    I would still take him any day because of the fact that he’s the best in-line blocker in football. He’s strong enough to be a Pro Bowl caliber offensive tackle. Graham is a sub-par blocker. And for those who say “Well in New Orleans’ offense, Graham doesn’t need to block,” it’s the point that he SHOULD be able to. He’s not a complete player unless he can block (much the same thing for Antonio Gates) so add in the fact that Gronkowski is the best blocker, it tips the scales massively in his favor. And that’s if you cut Gronk’s TDs in half. It shouldn’t even be an argument.
    You know what’s going to be interesting? The fact that between Gronkowski, Hernandez, Vernon Davis and Jimmy Graham, all of whom are pro bowl caliber players, there will only ever be one All-Pro in any given season. In ten years time, it’s going to be interesting to see how that pans out.

    "Fight on, my men!" Sir Andrew said, "A little I'm hurt, but not yet slain. I'll just lay down and bleed awhile... and then I'll rise, and fight again!"

    by BigRussNovak on Feb 19, 2012 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

    it wasn't even close in the all-pro voting

    44.5 to 5.5 in favor of the Gronk

    Tedy Bruschi- "How do we feel about being AFC Champs?"
    Team- "Aww Yeah!!!"

    by freeland1787 on Feb 19, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

    I know

    I’m saying that over the next 10 years, it’s going to be interesting to see whether it’s going to be split up between those players, or a monopoly by one or two. I’m saying that because you have 4 All-Pro caliber players, all very young, and if Gronkowski keeps playing at this level, none of them will ever see an All-Pro.

    "Fight on, my men!" Sir Andrew said, "A little I'm hurt, but not yet slain. I'll just lay down and bleed awhile... and then I'll rise, and fight again!"

    by BigRussNovak on Feb 19, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

    But do we want him blocking?

    He’s so essential to this team, I’d feel better if he wasn’t used as blocking so much. Blocking is a waste of his talent, and can lead to injuries. I get your point, I’m just wondering if we shouldn’t get someone like Solder to do the blocking.

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    by New Century Silver on Feb 20, 2012 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

    what what what???

    The whole reason Gronk is great is because the defense can’t always predict a run vs pass situation when he is in the game on the line. If you never keep him in to block or have someone else taking the blocking duties for him then you are making the offense predictable and stale. It’s kind of how the Pats would bring Slater in at receiver for only a couple plays but when he did it was almost always a run or a play action pass deep to him. It’s not difficult to defend when you know what is going to happen.

    So in short, no, it is not a waste of his talents to have him blocking.

    by Oughat on Feb 20, 2012 2:43 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

    The good thinkg about being predictable

    is you can stop at any time. Have him do no blocking for 6 games and then have him block in 1, and boom you’re unpredictable again.

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    by New Century Silver on Feb 20, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

    Nah.

    I would rather have the defense guessing each game.

    I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

    by Jack'sAxe on Feb 20, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

    and it is so fun

    watching him block Freeney all the way to the gatorade cans.

    Come see the violence inherent in the system, help help I'm being repressed.

    by sweetjesusihatethejets on Feb 21, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

    Did you see that chip block he threw against Suggs in the Ravens game?

    That alone was the highlight of that entire game for me. He threw Suggs to the side like a rag doll.

    by indy pats fan on Feb 23, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

    loved it

    he got up and asked “who did that to me”?

    by AMORALES on Feb 23, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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