Super Bowl XLVI Post-Game Thread: Punched in the Stomach
by Greg Knopping on Feb 5, 2012 11:38 PM EST
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A last second lost in the Super Bowl to the Giants for the second time in four years. Yeah, it sucks.
Looks like that hail mary almost went down.
But alas, the 2011 season is over.
I think we'll move on from this one as quick as possible. Although I will say this: the legacies of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are tainted. As great of a season as this was, the Patriots just couldn't make the big plays down the stretch despite leading nearly entire second half
I'm going to head down to the locker room, not sure how to treat this one.
The Patriots had so many opportunities to win this game, but they just couldn't take advantage. They had the long drive in the fourth quarter, but Tom Brady couldn't hit a wide open Wes Welker to seal the deal.
Use this thread to vent. Use it to reflect. Use it to curse.
And... oh yeah, trolls better stay away. We're going to be quick to ban "unruly fans."
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why does every loss to this team look exactly the same?
here’s some optimism though: Brady has a few more years. everyone else is young. we have money and draft picks to improve the defense. the future is still bright guys.. this hurts but we’ll be back
by mc34 on Feb 5, 2012 11:42 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
. hoping bb drafts some dbs and pass rushers this year.
by i luv this site on Feb 5, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions
Sucks to lose the Super Bowl but you guys will be back strong as always
Trust me, I know what you guys are feeling right now and it sucks. It will take weeks to months to get over but eventually you will get over it. And then when your just about to get over it, ESPN will bring it up and punch you in the face again. Coming from experience, you don’t truly get over it until the next season starts. While I certainly don’t like the Patriots, I know how you guys are feeling right now and can sympathize with you a little. Good luck in the offseason and good luck next year (unless you play the Steelers)
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:43 PM EST reply actions
thanks man
looking forward to see you guys next season
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I think we play the AFC East next year so we should play you
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I was hoping
For a Pats-Steelers Divisional Round to resettle our scores, but those Broncos…sigh.
Thanks though, Steeler fan. See you guys next season!
No- You get the West
Patriots played the North in 2010 (thus the Garbage game against the Browns).
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:05 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Thank you kind sir
Honestly, thank you, it felt good to read that coming from a Steelers fan. I have teams I don’t like, but I never talk trash about them so it’s nice to see you doing the same. I honestly wouldn’t have cared so much if we lost to well, any other team, but the Giants again, ouch x5000.
by Blacksheep01 on Feb 6, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Great game....
2 great organizations battling, Giants just made one more play. Good luck in the future, I’ll always have a soft spot for BB.
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by bleedblue12 on Feb 5, 2012 11:44 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Kudos
to BB for his genuine embrace with Tom Coughlin.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
They are long time, close friends.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
Wes Welker
Looks dead in the eyes
Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.
Edward Abbey
It was catchable
But I’d say tough for a 5’9" Welker. Gronk or Hernandez would’ve reeled that in no problem.
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.
it is hard to swing around
reach behind him then try to catch it, most of us would drop it
Yes, well...
Most of us aren’t paid millions of dollars to catch balls.
Not that I hold it against Wes. He probably feels worse than all of us right now.
Even if he kept his hands on it, the odds of it not popping out of his hands when he hit the ground (pretty awkwardly) I’d say were pretty small.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Feb 6, 2012 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
Feel bad for him...
he’s probably sick!
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by bleedblue12 on Feb 5, 2012 11:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't blame him
As much as the loss is not all on him, part of the blame does fall on him, and right now he is probably re-playing that catch in his head a million times.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:20 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Why us ? just why us?
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by BostonBeasts on Feb 5, 2012 11:45 PM EST via Android app reply actions
My take is, this is the law of averages catching up...
Pats won their first 3 Superbowls by 3, lost their last 2 by 4. 5 close games between 10 competitive well-coached and talented teams. Pretty unlikely to win them all, esp. in the salary-cap era.
So...
Our receivers forgot how to catch the ball at the end of the game, when it counted. 4 straight drops. Some bad passes by TB, but come on. Some of those should have been caught. I admit, with how our defense was playing, I wasn’t expecting much when we made it to the post season. But, I NEVER expected that it would be Welker/Hernandez/Branch and Brady that would be taking the credit for that loss.
That said, still proud of this team. Love the Pats, always will. Heartbroken, but that’s how it’s been lately with Boston teams(minus the Bruins, although their recent run of form isn’t helping matters). Hopefully we make it back next year. And hopefully we play someone who isn’t the Giants.
Gonna suck having to deal with my friends back home(Jersey) gloating about this one for months. Again.
It wasn't four straight drops though...
Brady took a sack in there that led to the Pats having to use their last time out.
- Welker dropped the ball that led to the punt that led to the winning points.
- Branch could not reel in the first down
- Hernandez could not reel in the pass on second down (and that one looked like the definition of one he should have caught)
- Brady was sacked on third down
- Branch and Hernandez then came up with back to back first downs
- Brady spiked the ball on first down
- Then there were three incompletions to end the game (none of which were high percentage passes- they call it a Hail Mary for a reason).
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Get another receiver that’s over 6 foot tall, draft a safety, and line backers. Try again next year. Funny thing is that in the end the thing that killed the Packers vs the giants was crucial drops, bit this team in the ass too.
Line backers as in like a ROLB/ LOLB
Like a Von Miller/Aldon Msith type player. Cornerback we have Ras I Dowling coming back and Moore showing promise. Get a Safety and we can shift McCourty back to CB where he belongs.
HAHA
SU-prise SU-prise SUUU-prise!!!! Didn’t see that coming! Oh wait, yeah I did. Leave it to the defense to give up plays and brady to seal up the loss at the end…Woohoo Go Pats! Can we now have a GM who calls the shots with defensive players and sign a descent defensive coordinator instead of a nobody.
Asante Samuel, Wes Welker
Awful Luck, it has happened twice now
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surprised more people aren't talking about the safety on the opening play
wtf was that? Brady has to know better than that. those 2 points could’ve made the difference
by mc34 on Feb 5, 2012 11:49 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Every play could've made a difference
2 fumbles unrecovered by the defense, silly penalties, crucial drops, and conservative play-calling toward the end.
That play...
Was especially egregious. That was inexcusable for veteran QB… and those two points made a huge difference to the defense in the final drive of the game. That last Giant drive would have been a “TD or die” drive.
They got the TD on the drive, so I am not sure it changes much...
But I think the Safety may have had something to do with the TD that made it 9 nothing- the Giants offense ran 25 first quarter plays- the Patriot defense needed a chance to catch its breath after the 12 play drive to start the game, and they got essentially 3 plays.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:31 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
About that safety and the way the 1st qtr went down...
I knew from the minute that call was made “official” that it was gonna hurt all game. Here’s why:
Start with the fact that the safety cost the Pats essentially the first quarter. What could have happened if Brady drove us enough to get a FG or TD on that opening drive (now 0-3 or 0-7, not 9-0)? Also, as dannijd mentions, the D was still winded, would Eli have had as easy a TD if the D got a break to recover? 3-3 or 7-3 to start the second is a lot different than 9-0.
Even if the rest of the scoring went down “exactly” as it did for the majority of the game, the late part of the 4th would’ve been 13-17. Eli driving for a TD with one timeout in the 2 minute drill against the Pats “defensive strength”, aka the “bend but don’t break” method, means that even in a worst-case (late TD by G-men), scenario, a high probability exists that Brady/Gostowski would’ve been left with enough clock for a game-tying FG, and, even if we had the same :57 seconds to drive, Brady wouldn’t be posting hail marys for the last :30, he’d be playing his strength (slants to get OOB and kill clock as we drive to FG range).
As always, a good game isn’t predicated on one play. We could what-if with a number of things that happened, like the fumble that slipped out of the Pats hands in the third, or if Welker pulls in that catch that he was a hair early on – what I saw on that play was that he had the ball by the front tip, which, because of the shape, is a sure sign that it’s gonna pop out from the pressure of reeling it in…
by Silver Paladin on Feb 6, 2012 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
I was taken aback at that play
I thought, oh my word, how could Brady have done that. His INT was pretty dumb too
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Fellas
that was a great game! your team played great in every aspect, and that fact is, it came down to a bounce of the ball. Good luck in the offseason. Its really great chatting with great fans who root for a great organization. And with a little luck…see you next year in the SB!
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Let's Go Giants!!!!
. so many missed opportunities to capitalize on fumbles
by i luv this site on Feb 5, 2012 11:52 PM EST reply actions
yes it sucks to lose, that game was winable, players made mistakes
BUT SO WHAT?
We made THIS far, everyone PLAYED their minds out…nothing to be ashamed of
Don’t let all the haters and trolls take away what we accomplished this season.
Yes we wanted this for “Mama” but she is still pround of all players because that’s what mama is for…And I am sure she can wait for a year or so
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This is my take too
Only 1 fanbase and team will be happy at the end of the year. There’s not really much they can do to get better except get healthy and get shore up the defense in free agency and drafts.
we still have a very strong foundation to build on and we are definitely heading to the right direction
as long as we protect Brady in the first quarter of the season opener, we will be fine
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I don't know what to say
I’m a Michigan native transplanted to Seattle and have suffered as a long time Lions fan. That being said, the Patriots have always been my AFC team (even more so when Brady went there after playing for U of M) I got so sick of the media hype this year. Giants this and Giants that. Giants players trash talking. I was so convinced that the Patriots would shut them up. I really thought the game was going to blow wide open after that 3rd quarter touchdown drive. I really have no way of articulating my thoughts into words. This Super Bowl just left me feeling crappy all over.
Me too...
The pain is different than in 2008, but it is definitely real- I am still very proud of this team, but today hurts, and it will probably take me a long time to get fully over it.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:33 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Not seeing this…Peyton is still a question mark but I suspect he’ll be back and ready to prove he can play. Both are still capable of taking their teams to the playoffs, and as the 9-7 Giants have proven, all you need is a chance.
Heck the latest rumor is that the Patriots may see him twice next year
If he can get healthy, Peyton may well be playing for the Dolphins next year.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:35 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Brady isn’t going anywhere. I don’t see how he’s going to go down hill for at he next few years unless he has a major injury.
Hush...
Injuries are cruel, but Father Time is a risk too- Brady is no longer young, and Father Time is undefeated.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:35 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well brady's reading of defense and football IQ isn't going anywhere
I don’t think how him getting older is going to hurt too much.
There is football IQ/ ability to read the defense (and the good ones have those skills forever), but there is still the physical aspect of the game- Brady has to be able to elude defenses, and physically he has to be able to make the throws and take the hits- and at some point the sand in the hour glass for him will run out- he is 34 years old, and will be 35 by the time next season comes around- and that is old for a QB- he is the elder statesman in the AFC East, and only Peyton Manning and Matt Hasselbeck.
Time is fleeting- and yes, there are the Kurt Warner’s and Brett Favres of the world who manage to buy a little more time on the field, but any Colts fan would tell you to not for one minute take a healthy effective Brady to be a given going forward- that can evaporate at any time, and the older he gets, the more true it is.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 4:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well guys
you killed us twice and you made the sb. you guys had another great year. maybe we’ll actually give you a run next year, who knows. i apologize for the jet fan who posted that shit. he isn’t even registered on our site, i believe. see you next year, and don’t feel so bad. i wish i witnessed my team win one sb in my lifetime, let alone 3. have a good night
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Only 1 is happy at the end of every year.
by tossin on Feb 6, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
^this
there are 30 others teams who were dying to be where we were tonight
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Why couldnt they get Ocho some more snaps, Branch was ghost
Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.
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Seriously...We had a whole season to get Ocho involved
yet we ignore him. He looked much better than branch when he was playing.
I tend to believe that there is a reason for that
Yes, Chad may have been open, but just as important as being open is both being where you are supposed to be, and your quarterback being able to trust that you are running to where he expects you to be- Brady is throwing the ball to a location where he expects the receiver to be, and if Chad is showing in practice and in games that he is frequently not in the right place, you can’t blame Brady too much for not wanting to take the risk even when Chad is open.
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by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:38 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Good game Pats fans
Sorry it had to happen this way, but thanks for keeping it classy these past 2 weeks. A healthy Gronk could have been a game-changer for sure, but you still almost pulled it out. The Pats are set up very well for the next few years, and I look forward to more of these matchups in the years to come.
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Ugh ... the stinking safety to start the game ...
Those two points killed us in the end.
Without those – we’d have been up 4 instead of just 2 on that last drive. ’Would have totally changed the game.
Once again, frustrating beyond words.
Oh well .. time to focus on the Celtics and Bruins until pitchers & catchers report …. see ya all when we get close to the NFL draft!
And no, there is no reason to think Brady & BB’s legacy is tainted in any way. They are not finished building that legacy yet …
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
If they win another SB no one will give a fuck about these two. Last one came down to a fluke play and this one was down to our receivers crapping out. Anyone with a brain would know that it wasn’t 100% on brady why they lost. Even some of my Giants fans friends all said if the Receivers didn’t blow it at the end the pats probably were in good position to win it and that wasn’t on Brady.
Well…we shouldn’t take for granted that the Pats will reach the Superbowl again. Took them 5 years since the last one…
Yeah
But we shouldn’t expect the Pats to get here next year. History is unkind to the Superbowl loser. Or even the winner, recently.
unless Brady gets injured
Assuming we improve our defense and get a receiver that can actually go deep….I don’t see why we can’t be back here next season.
Go Pats. Celtics. Red Sox. Bruins.
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Pats probably have as good a chance to make it as anybody
But that’s still a very low percentage. In the playoffs, almost every team is well-coached and talented, so each team really has about a 50-50 chance of winning each game. At best, depending on the matchups, maybe 60-40. If you have a bye, that’s about 1/8 chance to win the Superbowl, and if not, that’s 1/16.
And because of how even teams are in the playoffs, it requires a healthy amount of luck to get into the Superbowl. The Giants got some help against SF from 2 muffed punts and 2 failed interceptions. The Pats got some help against BAL with a bad field goal attempt. Pats also got lucky drawing DEN in the divisional round, which was just a great matchup for them, and the Giants did too against GB and ATL.
That is a lot of assumptions
Yes, Brady gives this team it’s best chance to win- the league is becoming increasingly QB driven. But this team has a number of players who will become free agents following the season (and some, including Chad, who I fully expect will be released). There are a lot of holes to fill- at Receiver, and Running Back on Offense, and Defensively particularly in pass defense (corners and safeties particularly). The defense needs to be better- Brady has never won a Super Bowl by scoring a ton of points, and as it gets colder it is simply tough to score that type of points. The Patriots won championships by having a great defense… They need to get one back. And perhaps that starts by Belichick hiring a defensive coordinator.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:17 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
One of the differences between 07 and now
is that that was the end of an era. Harrison, Vrabel, McGinest, Seymour, Bruschi, etc. Now we are on the good side of rebuilding. While we have some obvious areas, we also have tons of youth and players that are still ascending. Chung, Spikes, Fletcher, Slater, Mayo, Mccourty, Moore, Dowling, Deaderick, Love, not to mention, Vereen, Ridley, Gronk, Herndo, Solder, Cannon.
So, taking nothing for granted, but we are better built to get back to the bowl now then we were then.
This is our '96
Paving the way for our next ’01. Of course, that would signal a changing of the guard at QB, but this defensive corps is one to be proud of in the coming years.
Can I Scream?
Nah
01 had almost nothing to do with 96. Couple of players. Bruschi, maybe McGinest, Milloy, ty Law,Troy Brown, no real continuity, as afar as I can remember. Sure, great core, but not as many as we have now.
I do agree that we have a good young team that has not peaked yet.
Young in some places, but old in others...
The defense is fairly old, but when you look at the offensive side of the ball, they are getting older- on that side of the ball is where many of the throwbacks to the early part of this rub still exist- Faulk is on his last legs and has probably played his last down, Brady will be 35 next season, Welker and Branch are on the wrong side of 30 (please note I am firmly in the re-sign Welker camp despite his age, just pointing out that he is not a kid), and the offensive line. It is completely possible that by the time the defense rebuilds, it will be the offense who is on it’s last legs.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 4:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
when you "rebuild"
you go to the Super Bowl, must be nice
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Although it has been kinder to the losers of recent
Since the 2007 Patriots, all three losers made the playoffs the next season. Granted they are a combined 0-3, but the winners mark in those three years is 0-2 with the Steelers not even making it back after winning it in 2009.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:10 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I need some closure on this before i go to sleep
Was the Brady Welker play Brady’s or Welker’s fault. It looked like there was a safety up top and Brady aimed it perfectly but welker couldn’t make the play.
by Always Sunny Next Year on Feb 6, 2012 12:04 AM EST reply actions
Both
Brady overthrew it a bit, but Welker had a chance to grab it.
Totally agree
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by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:17 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Pass a little high but hit welker in the hands
Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.
Edward Abbey
Put it like this
Welkers made tougher catches
Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.
Edward Abbey
put it this way: Eli's receivers has to make tougher cathces often
..and while not many people spoke about this one: Brady made a throw 50+ seconds left to the 50 yard line to Branch into open space. Perfect throw and the chance to go at least to the 45-40, perhaps more. It would have been 45+ seconds Brady made a fantastic play at 4 and 16 to save the drive but it was much less gain and about 20 seconds less time.
Watching the last 2 drives again: I can not blame Brady in any shape or form. He did the crucial throws. Wes, Deion and Aaron dropped them. (TBH: i like them too much to blame them either.) I just really like this year’s team and i am proud of them
by frogfromthemud on Feb 6, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
What do you mean?
Does he have a special tonight? It’s Sunday. I know he’s a Red Sox fan, but is he a Pats fan too?
May he survive the first quarter of week one
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by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:40 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
And for media sakes
I better hope NFL have the Pats play teams like Packers, 49ers, Lions, Saints, Colts, Ravens, Steelers next season…just so they can finally shut up if the Pats are still capable of beating par 500 teams. Oh, and the Jets too…so they (the Pats) can give them a somewhat strange beating of that city.
Maybe homefield advantage isn’t all so great anymore…let us be the underdogs next season.
The NFL schedule is set by rule...
The Patriots get: the Dolphins, Bills, and Jets twice each every year because they are in the same division.
They get to play each of the other divisions within the AFC on a three year cycle. Next year they play the AFC South, so they will also play the Jaguars, Colts*, Texans*, and Titans. (asterisks throughout denote home games)
They also play each division in the NFC on a four year rotation. Next year they will play the NFC West, so they will play Arizona*, Seattle, St. Louis, and San Francisco*
The final two games are set based on the team’s placement in the prior year- they will face the two teams in the divisions they don’t play who ended the season with the same placement as them. For the Patriots, this is the Broncos* and Ravens.
It is hard to tell how difficult that schedule will be to play next year- a normal off season will give teams the chance to gel, and that could affect how well the season goes. The schedule does not look like a cake walk, but it remains to be seen whether the Texans and 49ers are sustainable.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 4:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The NFC West
will be dang good next year, the Seahawks got near to .500 despite having some of the worst QB performances of the season
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
If the Cardinals don’t get a QB, I can’t see them being good.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I make the Cards good
with the assumption Peyton wants to go there, we shall see
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Nice...
Then it finally looks like a good schedule next year, in terms of difficulties. I’d love to see the Pats play the 49ers, Texans, and Ravens!
Doubt it...
I think he will be back, but his agent is far too smart to let him take a bad deal because of one drop.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 1:41 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
As a Dolphins fan...
…I can’t say I’m upset about you losing, especially in such a poetic fashion. Still, I can empathize with how much it must suck. You’re a great team with arguably the best coach/QB combo in the league. Hopefully we can give you more competition next season.
Praying to Sun-Ra that Joe Philbin becomes the new Dolphins coach...
...and brings Matt Flynn with him.
(PREVIOUS SIGNATURES)
...and I think Tony Sparano should be fired. [√]
Former Ayatollah of the "Draft Mike Pouncey" bandwagon. [√]
(Currently hoping that Reggie Bush isn't as useless as I think he is) [√]
Thanks. Dolphins played great in the mid through end season...
You guys are the most memorable just cuz you were our week 1 opponent, at least to me.
I like you guys more than the Jets and Bills in terms of fanbase. We shall meet again next season, Miami Dolphins!
Hey! I can hear you…..
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Feb 6, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
the Dolphins getting Peyton Manning
if healthy, would be epic, one all-time great to compliment Marino FINALLY
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think he will end up there if anywhere, I just can’t see him in NY trying to take spotlight from his brother. Plus, the Jets are a mess. Theres a reason they never win the big one, just like San Diego, just like Cleveland.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I don't.
Not unless it’s for the right price anyway. There’s been some number-crunching done on ThePhinsider and signing Peyton for what he’s actually worth would cripple us in free agency, not to mention the draft. The Colts will have to pay him all or most of what he’s owed, and he himself must be willing to take a pay cut in exchange for playing with a pro bowl MVP and a 1k yard rusher (still have NO IDEA how Bush did that).
Praying to Sun-Ra that Joe Philbin becomes the new Dolphins coach...
...and brings Matt Flynn with him.
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the good news is
Toast, that Peyton isn’t selfish, I do think he will give back cash to help a team. Of course, I’ve always liked the guy so this may make me biased and off base
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Great season guys
I know right now it doesnt mean a lot, but I wanted to repay some of the class a number of your regulars here showed us as BTSC last year after we lost the Superbowl
Hell of year, and trust me I know how it feels. There is no consolation unfortunately, but keep your head up, next year is another shot and lets face it, I cant see anyone else winning the AFC East anytime soon. Reload. Come back firing.
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Thanks...
But your collection of Spygate comments on BTSC are super ridiculous. If you’d like to come on here for a lesson about what really happened/was discovered way back then, I’d be more than happy to educate you.
In short, video tapes have nothing to do with the Patriots coming back to Earth in recent years. It’s a tough, tough league to sustain any real success. Even a team led by one Tim Tebow can disassemble your postseason dreams in an instant.
Can I Scream?
What is it with you and lurking around every SBnation site combing for spygate comments? If someone wanted to come for a lesson of what really happened, they wouldn’t come here. That would be like going to BP’s offices to find out how unnecessary gasoline is. As far as the relation to their lack of success in the playoffs since 04, who knows what the deal is, but the fact is, people are going to make that connection, and you just have to deal with it.
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by FrankWyt on Feb 6, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You make a good point
but I think a lot of people have been misinformed as to the true nature of the rule discrepancy, and while I don’t know exactly what he has been saying, if he is able to educate some people, and give them a better understanding of it, then I say go for it.
But it’s just sports. People are not going to be rational about it. If they did, they wouldn’t really bring up Spygate in the first place. If people hate the Pats, they hate the Pats. All the good teams hate each other (and by “teams”, I really mean the fanbases). Every single team has things that other teams’ fanbases like the pick on, and that’s just part of sports.
Although FrankWyt comes up a bit harsh toward Adam Fox in his post, I think what he’s trying to say is just to let it go. It’s simply healthier to not give a crap. Fans will think what they want to think, but in a decade or two, the landscape of the NFL will be completely different and no one’s going to care that much.
Of course
but i have actually been able to inform and enlighten a handful of people, who have since completely changed their minds and judgements towards the whole affair. Course that was face to face, so no doubt it’s a bit different on a forum like this
I personally hate when peeps bring up spygate
I think it had nothing to do with the Pats winning SBs and later not winning them. I dont care what tapes show, you still have to make plays and make stops.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I agree with your 2nd sentence. But let'
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
......s face reality. As Pats fans, we of course don't wish to believe we did anything knowingly wrong.
Do i think we benefited from footage? Perhaps. It’s like why do it if there are no benefits. What the degree of those benefits were is a different story. I have no idea.
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Thats a truthful take, I still think they earned those SBs though
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Yes, i concur.
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
If that came across as harsh I apologize, but I’ve seen this rerun with Adam Fox many times, at a few different blogs. I just don’t get it. Whether it’s right or wrong that people feel that way, it’s going to keep coming up. If he really wants to piss people off, he can just say “scoreboard still says we won” or something to that effect.
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What caused the Denver meltdown, Frank?
You don’t see me bringing up video tapes, witchcraft and voodoo as reasons why the Steelers lost to a team these “cheating” Patriots handled by 35 points, do you?
It stings, it sucks, it’s a black eye. But to think a couple of losses a bounce or a tip away from going the other way are attributed to a taping scandal? Jeez. Anything other than “the better team won tonight” just makes you look like misinformed conspiracy theorists. Not like Steelers fans care about their already horrendous perception out of their comfy towel-waving bandwagon, but still.
Can I Scream?
that’s your answer? You can’t just accept the way things are so you have to try to attack my team? lol. Whatever works for you man.
I don’t even know how you are making a connection. But it does seem like you pulled out a pre-made response that you’ve used millions of times and just changed the name at the top.
Hope you feel better now lol.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Collection?
1 comment. Get a life Foxy.
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
Steelers fans are being classy again, guess I was wrong, I can admit my mistakes
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think you just want to believe that Steelers fans suck because you hate the team. Obviously I don’t know your experience with us Steeler fans, but I have a hard time imagining that it was really that bad. On our site, if people are treating opposing teams fans poorly, it’s not usually tolerated unless they deserve it.
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that is for sure
and i think your ideology is accurate, I am guilty as charged
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
This has to be killing
Wes and Brady, THEY GOING BACK TO THE SUPERBOWL GUARANTEED
Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.
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by TONYBOI08 on Feb 6, 2012 1:08 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Great game from a Broncos fan
Tough loss, but as always with the Patriots, there is hope for next year. You guys have such fundamental stability in your brain trust, you generally have good drafts, and you actually have a fighting chance at the SB year in and year out. Count your blessings—other teams are not so lucky.
Even if you guys get B. Lloyd with McDaniels as the OC, I saw serious needs for a #1 WR who is a deep threat and has good hands. Trade for B. Marshall, draft a stud safety, add corner depth/DL depth, and you guys should be primed to kick the shit out of cocky NY teams for years to come :)
I don't know...
Love his skills but hate his attitude- really don’t want to be dealing with that.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Feb 6, 2012 4:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hahahah thanks!
I missed the Tebowmania now…guess we gonna be hearing A LOT about the Mannings over the next several months.
I wouldnt say this loss taints the legacy of BB or of Tom Brady
Even John Elway lost SBs, I know it stings but these things happen. What the Pats have been able to do during the Free Agency Era is very impressive. I have to agree with Brady when he says he would rather lose in the SB than not make it at all.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
by YankeesJets on Feb 6, 2012 1:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I guess I'm biased as a Pats fan
But I agree. Brady and Belichick are already in the conversation for greatest of all time. Another Superbowl would obviously be huge, but they’ve already had a pretty good career. It’s just too greedy to expect more.
By the way, did Brady said that comment about how he’d rather to lose in the SB just now?
I read Brady's comment on Yahoo homepage, im pretty sure it was from tonight
Pats fans shouldnt be too hard on some of these guys, as bad as the fans feel, im sure they feel even worse.
Sucks that the football season is over, baseball cant start soon enough.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
You're telling me
Being a Boston sports fan, you’re treated to the highest of highs and the nastiest of lows in a very short period of time. However nice the Bruins Stanley Cup victory was, all I’ll remember going forward is the ’11 Sox collapse … and this.
Can I Scream?
No taint here
taint is a negative connotation. Perhaps it diminishes what would have been among the greatest accomplishments for a coach/qb combo, but I don’t think taint is the appropriate word. Maybe you didn’t mean it that way.
Not sure if you guys read Boston.com, but you need to go get this Wilbur dude
http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/wilbur/2012/02/not_so_safety_c.html
Pathetic that this guy can write about sports. Im obviously not a Pats fan but I hate this kind of finger pointing.
On a side note, I hated NBC showing us Kraft as the clock expired. I would bet money his thoughts as that pass fell in the endzone, werent on football.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Why do we even have local sports analysts anyway?
Except for maybe a handful of them, most don’t really know anything more about the game than we do.
True but this is awful shoddy journalism
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
that was douchey on NBC
I don’t like Belichick or Brady, but Kraft is a class act and he played a major role in ending the lockout so thanks for that
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
longtime pats fan
but I have to say, they made too many mistakes, and Eli was sharper than Brady, he was putting the ball right in there whereas Tom was off just a bit. Safety, 12 men, BB shouldn’t have wasted that time out on the challenge, the play was right in front of him, they could have used it at the end.
Yeah, one of those games where we woulda coulda shoulda
just a play or two,and we would be celebrating.
Some people around here think we won apparently.
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
I don't see anyone thinking that
But it’s not exactly the end of the world. 18-1 was way worse.
I can't help but feel that this was the last Super Bowl Brady will ever play in. The guy known by just about every
expert as the best QB of the generation (P. Manning) may very well be in our division next season. BB trades down and ignores pass rushing instead drafting talent. We have been really lucky to be competitive year in year out, but with the last 2 SB appearances have been crushing losses. Brady’s numbers minus a piss poor Bronco team has been horrid. Its as though he’s lost whatever made him great. Going to the playoffs is one thing, but winning the SB is entirely another.
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Sadly I disagree
The Pats did have an easy playoff with essentially two byes but the defense improved as the year went on. Im not talking about statistical rankings, but actual play. I wouldnt count on or care that Peyton is coming to the divison. You also have to remember you have a TE, that when healthy, is pretty much uncoverable.
I would also give Brady a bit of a pass, he carried the team on his back while the defense was trying to come together during the early parts of the season. Its not like either of the SB losses were blowouts, they just had unlucky things happen in both. Sometimes you just run into a hot team and nothing can be done about it.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Maybe. You need a lot of luck to get the Superbowl, much less win it. He’s already played in 5 (in 10 chances/12 years, 50% rate), which is pretty good. Why should we expect another? We’re too damned spoiled.
Id like to see my football team just get there once in my lifetime,lol
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Also, the guy you apparently consider “the best QB of the generation” (what kind of Pats fan are you?) is 1-1 in Superbowls, and lost the last one on a interception-return TD. Brady doesn’t exactly look inferior in comparison.
You clearly didn't read that properly. He is regarded as such by the majority of "experts".
I never said i felt that way. But outside of Boston, an overwhelming majority feel that he is better. Not me.
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Experts call Manning the best? ESPN or somewhere else? All I ever hear is that Brady is
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Unless Manning is earning an MVP that year or is in the Super Bowl, or both.
The story changes as the scenery changes.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 6, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I have a strong feeling next years SB will be between Eagles and Texans. Unfortunately.
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
I'm going to give you a few months to calm down before I take anything you say seriously
sorry, not meaning to be a dick, and I understand it, but you are on a major negative streak right now, and I know you have been here for awhile so I want to be patient with you. If you want some advice, try to turn this negativity into something good. Maybe pick up where Myra Kraft left off, if not, keep venting I guess.
by furiousd on Feb 6, 2012 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What about Bengals/Lions?
two teams with stud quarterbacks who have humongous defensive lines, it wouldn’t be a big market matchup but it would be great football
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know about Cincy. They have to prove that they can win two years in a row for me to believe, and that collapse this year isn’t helping me out in the belief department. For the Lions, I do think they can go, but judging by their history, something always happens. I’d like to see them win one though, it would be huge for the metro Detroit area.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Also
They’re kind of screwed being in the same division as BAL and PIT.
for sure
that’s why Cleveland NEVER has any future, must suck to live in C-Town
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Written by Greg Knopping:
Use this thread to vent. Use it to reflect. Use it to curse.
Not sure what part of that is not understandable by idiots!!
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
Brandon Jacobs on what many already knew:
“We decapitated them. They can’t wear that crown no more.”
“They’re not a big play team”, said Jacobs. “I don’t think their offense is like Green Bay’s. I think Green Bay’s offense and wideouts are definitely better.”
“They got more big play players on Green Bay’s team so really, we weren’t really worried.”
“I would’ve been a little bit nervous if it was one of those two with 57 seconds because they got a big play outfit.”
In GOD I TRUST>In BB i trust......faith where it belongs!!
Life is about who makes it, not who makes it the fastest! Drive slow homie.
I know everybody hates Rex but he isnt close to as awful as Jacobs is
I dont ever root for a player to get hurt but I might an exception for that piece of trash.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Giant fan here not trolling
good game but I disagree with BB and TB’s legacy being tainted, hears why. . .
Todays NFL is sooo much tougher to win SB rings, so guys like Lombardi and Noll won multiple titles but their windows were 10 years. In todays game you only have about 5 years and from 01 to 05 the Pats won 3 SBs. They then adusted what they do and they’ve still remained very compatative. Once the Steelers and Pack got old thats it, they were done, guys like Staar and Bradshaw never loss the defensive studs that you guys have over the years, hell I have more respect for BB and TB for how they’ve remained on top.
Lets be real the Pats have 3 SBs in 5 appearances in the past 10 years. The Steelers are 2 for three, Giants 2 for 2, thats it. Nobody else has multiple tittles. Its very very tough. You guys will be the AFC favorites. Your secondary is comming around and by next year it might be realy realy good. I would expect Brady’s carrer to end like Elways, winning some SBs with a great team.
LIke I said I’m not trolling. Great game. If Gronk was healthy you win. We got a nice break. TB, BB, and Kraft are class and I’ll root for you guys to win the AFC east and humiliate the Jets again next season.
"Eli cooler than the other side of the pillow" Mario Manningham after Super Bowl XLVI
Thanks for the support. I think we Pats fans are pretty damn spoiled. We pretty much expect a Superbowl every year. But it’s tough. A lot has to go right – injuries, scheduling, match-ups. It kind of makes the Giants’ 2 recent Superbowl runs pretty remarkable, considering they were almost all on the road against favored teams. ‘07 was maybe the greatest underdog runs I’ve ever seen: Beating division rival #1 seed 13-3 Dallas, who swept the Giants in the regular season; beating #2 seed 13-3 Green Bay, with a resurgent Brett Favre, in overtime on a classic Favre interception; and beating 18-0 Pats, with the help of a miracle catch.
I was hoping for our own miracle catch there at the end, but alas, it was not meant to be.
I commend a Pats fan
who admits the “spoiled” factor, there are some class individuals here after all, if I just open my eyes and see for myself
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I thought most people on this blog are pretty level-headed
I don’t think anyone here thinks the Giants didn’t deserve to win that game, and I think many can appreciate reaching the Superbowl 5 times in 11 years, as opposed to expecting 11 Superbowl wins in 11 years.
fair statements
I’m glad you didn’t get offended at my comment, I realize my take could have been taken the wrong way, you guys are good, even if I don’t like the Belichick/Brady peanut butter sandwich
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Landeta is class
like other Giants fans, carry on
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you, Landeta. That was classy.
Congratulations to you on the win. Maybe there’ll be a round three…
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 6, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Lombardi and Noll won multiple titles but their windows were 10 years
Same for the 80’s 49ers and early 90’s Cowboys. Free agents weren’t fully free until around the time the Cowboys early 90’s dynasty.
But that statement is as true as you can get. That is actually one reason I feel Tomlin may be a better coach than Noll. And one reason I have nothing but respect for the hoodie.
Anyway, my thoughts exactly. not many teams will touch your teams dominance in this era of the NFL
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Although
Tomlin was lucky enough to inherit a contender from Cowher. But of course, the fact that it remains a contender in the FA era and that he’s been to 2 SB’s, winning 1, is a testament to how good he is (and how lucky PIT fans are having such stability at that position).
Most important stat to me
Home AFCCH
Cowher 1-4
Tomlin 2-0
Remember, the year before Tomlin, the Steelers had a miserable season (only 8-8, but there was a lot more to the misery of the season than the record) He did still have a lot of players, but the attitude and drive of the team was much more noticeable. I think the players at that time had tuned Cowher out, and that’s why he quit (or retired, however you want to look at it)
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I don't know what hurts more
The fact that we lost to a New York team two seasons ago, or the fact that we lost to a New York team TWICE last season, including a two superbowl game losing spree.
If Billy Cundiff did make that kick three weeks ago…what would have the outcome be?
Go big or go home
I guess a loss to the Ravens would’ve hurt less, but people put way too much stock into the Boston-NY rivalry. Can’t be afraid to aim high if you want be legendary, even if it means you fail hard.
I'm heartbroken but in some ways my feelings are mixed
It was a heartbreaking loss that will stick with me forever. We had plenty of chances to make plays on both sides of the ball and in a lot of ways it felt like we lost the game more than the Giants won it (they played a flawless game not taking that away from the G-Men but didn’t really do anything special).
However, during the mid-part of the season I didn’t see us being competitive enough to even get close to the SB. Our defense was a major questionmark almost throughout the year. So, what I’m trying to say is that I feel lucky for being a fan of an organization that (in recent years) is always a contender.
In hindsight I’m proud of the accomplishments by the defense and if anyone would have said that our defense would let up 20 points to the Giants I would have been more than happy with it.
The offense was not performing up to standards in this game or Baltimore game. Tom Brady was decent but didn’t provide that extra spark (and threw away another unnecessary interception on a deep throw with double coverage) in the big one and that drop by Welker almost feels like the Asante Samuel dropped interception.
It’s a sour taste but I’m still hopeful. If we can keep progressing our defense and get more weapons on offense (having a big field-stretching wideout coupled with Wes, Gronk and Herndo could makes us very much harder to stop).
Me too
It sucks because this was clearly a winnable game, but I thought they exceeded my expectations, at least defensively. If they can somehow improve the offense and defense, they could be very scary and balanced next year. However, we should be careful not to set our expectations too high. It’s very hard to win playoff games, as we’ve seen in the last 5 years.
Tough loss after a great season, Pats fans.
I hate it for Welker, who’s one of my favorite non-Texans players in the league. I know that drop is killing him, even though it was far from the only thing that cost the Pats the game.
Anyhow, you have an exciting team to be proud of. I look forward to watching the Texans play up there this year.
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when you said brady could not hit welker to put away the game
did you mean the one that he slightly underthrew and welker dropped? or was there another one?
Punch in the stomach?
No, mine was about 8 inches lower.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 6, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I know it hurts but..
I know this loss hurts and they should have easily won this.. and the way league is, we may never see the pats in the SB for a few years..Still making it this far with a makeshift defense and a suddenly nervous / and not so sharp anymore QB isn’t that bad. Can’t blame Welker on this one. the 12 men on the field, the fumbles, the offside.. there are other things as well. add to that you don’t have a receiver to stretch the field, the opposite defense have a good time taking care of you.. hopefully something will change next year.. We will be back in the playoffs hopefully but SB… dunno about that
Easily won this?
NYG is like the worst possible matchup for the Pats. They should’ve been favored if the betting public wasn’t so dumb.
it's a mental game
my DVR was disrupted because a power outage struck during Hernandez’ touchdown reception, but when I watch it in full on NFL Network tomorrow night, I think we all will see that Tuck has a mental edge over Brady as does Eli Manning. It’s odd, but not inexplicable. The media needs to give Eli and Coughlin credit here, they are assuredly deserving.
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
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