Don't Blame Welker

it was way too early in the game to affect too much. The Pats were still up by 8 in the 3rd.

Sorry but losing to Tebow is worse

F them both. Two dirtiest players in the NFL.

Ouch… I am thankful that my Giants fan brother and sister were at school and at her house respectively. This loss was painful enough to watch without having to hear their joy.

Gronk had the LB beat at first but stopped mid way when he thought Brady got sacked, which probably costed him in the end.

It was a bit high but also hit him straight in the hands. Receivers are expected to give their QBs some help. Manningham helped Eli plenty of times with throws where he went up and got it.

And thousands of times in his life. Was the pass right between the numbers? No. But since when was that the standard?

As bruschi says, this is what championship football is all about – when the ball is in the air, are you going to make the play? It was and he didn’t and the Pats lost.

And thousands of times in his life. Was the pass right between the numbers? No. But since when was that the standard?

As bruschi says, this is what championship football is all about – when the ball is in the air, are you going to make the play? It was and he didn’t and the Pats lost.

how the hell was he “average”. He was good, not his usually super awesome but good. Plus advance stats had him as doing pretty well against good teams. Looking at what 3 games to prove a point means nothing in the overall scheme of things. Most QBs are going to be not as good as their usual numbers vs good teams. And there is no way that this loss is just on Brady unless he dropped his own passes as well as gave up a 90+ drive to manning. Your just spoiled.

I do agree on the need for another WR.

Brady was on something like a 16/16 with 2 td streak at one point. He was just SIZZLING and brought the team within two first downs of the win. Unfortunately, his receivers dropped 4-5 crucial balls and the linchpin around which this offense is built on was playing on one leg.

Don’t you dare blame Tom Brady for this loss!

any of the Pats superbowl winning teams?

The play was a complete break down when the giants broke through. It was 3rd and long and his other option was to dump it off short or try to hit someone. Gronk looked open, and Brady threw it up for him to get it. Not the worst thing in the world considering the match up. Also if brady tried to force it to the middle of the field which was covered, it could have been a shorter pick off or an incomplete and we’d punt anyways. In the larger scheme of things that int meant nothing. The Safety was bad but it wasn’t like the pats weren’t up at 8 in the 3rd. They drove past the midfield plenty of times, but i thought the play calling once they were on the 50 became much more conservative with runs for little to no gain a lot which was perplexing since before then Brady was dissecting the defense. THe poor runs left the pats with 2nd/3rd and long a lot.

In fact, I’m wearing my Wes Welker jersey right now as I type this (I thought “its easy to rep the Pats after a win, I’m gonna rep them just as hard after this loss”). I just thought its interesting how Wes is getting all this support that Asante never got, and heck, he’s getting more support than brady is getting atm, even though I don’t think you could have asked Brady to do much more than what he did. considering the linchpin which this offense is built around (Gronk) was clearly limited in what he could do on his ankle.

all know but because of how long welker has been here and the attachment that, fans in general cant come to just outright blame him. However that drop is also now in the back peoples heads along with Asantes

- Samuel held out to begin the season because he was franchised and did not like it. He only agreed to sign his contract after holding out through camp and after the team put a clause in the contract guaranteeing that he would not be franchised again. It was known on one level or another that he had one foot out the door. He further made the missed play in a Super Bowl where the Patriots were very heavily favored- everyone expected them to win, so his role in their loss was magnified, potentially to an unfair level.

- Brady is being treated more harshly because of who he is- a multiple time Super Bowl MVP, and League MVP. Very simply put, he is expected to win the game- plus, some of the plays that led to the loss go on him too- the safety, the interception, some of the mis-cues. Plus he is the quarterback, and thus subject to receiving too much credit if they lose. It is just how it goes.

- Welker, like Samuel is in his last year with the Patriots, but he seems to be well loved within the organization, and both him and Kraft have talked about how much they would like to make something work. It is believed that he will be back, so there is no need to get a, “who needs him” attitude as they did with Samuel. Instead, while some bury him, others remember all the good that he had done for this team, and see his sadness at having made that error, and forgive him.

Asante’s was in his hands at around chest level if I remember right. The problem with Asante (despite missing the INT, which Meriweather missed one, too) was that he left coverage of Mr. David Tyree allowing him to freestyle and make a certain helmet catch. Harrison was on the other side of the field and had to come across and cover for him – he almost made it, too. Had Asante stuck with his man, Samuel likely would have broken it up or intercepted it.

Wes’ was a circus catch that would have been the highlight of the Super Bowl if he’d pulled it in. Yeah, he could have made it, but it wasn’t a high probability catch by any stretch. Brady was off on the throw, or Wes was off on the route or both. Meanwhile Branch misses one with his feet on the ground and he gets a pass, and Herndo misses one on the numbers and he’s fine, too?

BTW, Brady put the first points of the night up … for the Giants. He made up for it, but he also missed guys. It was a team loss. The defense played as well as they have all year and got to Eli more often than the Giants got to Tom.

I would love to have a WR set like the packers or NO, added to the TE. Big guys who are fast, Welker is good, but we need an upgrade to branch or at least get ocho more involved if he;s still around.