Stampede Blue: Pats = Nazis
Let's start with the brief, but apparently necessary, reminder that we're talking about sports teams here. We're not talking about world events, like whether there is or is not such an ideology as "islamofascism." We're not talking about torture or detentions. Heck, we're not even talking about petty crime.
We're talking about a game. Sure, it's a game that has been elevated to a mult-million dollar a year industry. It generates a lot of passion. But, essentially, it's a game. It should be fun to follow. Fun, as in "light-hearted." Perhaps even exhilarating.
Certainly, it can be frustrating.
One thing it most assuredly isn't is genocide.
Apparently, though, if you're a Colts Fan it's at least that bad.
Apparently, the Patriots are just like the Nazi's.
Let's ignore for the moment that Belicheck is anything but a "glory whore" as one bright Blue commenter claims. In fact, let's just assume that everything people say about him is true, that the Pat's are the only team in the league to "cheat," that the franchise cares only about winning (that's right, ignore everything the Krafts and the players do in their communities), that they're the blackguard of the NFL. Running up the score and crapping on the game.
So they're Nazi's? Are you seriously going there? Even as a joke -- especially as a joke -- this is sick.
I'm not sure which is more disturbing: the fact that someone actually made this comparison, or the fact that it's been received so positively over at "Stampede Blue."
I credit the lone observer who notes that Godwin's Law says that whomever follows the degeneration of an argument down to the point where they invoke the Nazis is, ipso facto, the loser of that argument. That person also noted that this argument actually started with that observation.
Well, I suggest we stop it. Right there. I can't think of a more inappropriate way to talk about a game. I'd like to thank the media, notably Gregg Easterbrook and Indy local Bob Kravitz, for helping to make such comparisons more acceptable to the public by continuing to put "evil" and "Patriots" in the same sentence.
Don't Easterbrook and Kravitz know that irony, sarcasm and satire are just big, scary words to midwesterners? There simply aren't very many people in Indiana who know you're using hyperbole. (I know what you guys are thinking out there in hoosierland: "Hyperbole? Is that French? He's un-American!!")
Let's keep it simple. And let's try to remember: this is a game. Not the apocalypse.
UPDATE: Apparently, they just don't get it. Yes, I know it was a joke. No, it isn't really funny. No, not even a little. Sorry.
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Funny...
Funny is not calling them Nazis, who killed, literally, millions upon millions of people because they weren't the 'correct' people. That's not funny, it's sad, and it's disturbing that so many people over on Stampede Blue think it's anywhere near close to being funny.
by DanieXJ on Oct 30, 2007 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
I'm not a violent person by nature, but the last person who said to my face the kinds of things those idiots are joking about lost a few teeth.
by RSNexile on Oct 30, 2007 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way...
I'd only have to explain that to the idiots, obviously.
by RSNexile on Oct 30, 2007 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're an idiot
by RSNexile on Oct 30, 2007 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think that was the point.
by InappropriateNameChanged01 on Oct 30, 2007 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exhibit #2
As if we didn't already know you were an idiot, you come in here with that weak excuse.
Let's try it another way so that even our dumbest readers can get it:
Do you have a mother? A sister? A wife or girlfriend? A daughter? Suppose someone raped her, and people here started "joking" about how the Patriots were going to make the Colts bend over and forcibly have their way with them on Sunday. Because it would just be so funny to rape the victims.
Did you lose anyone on 9/11? Suppose we joked here about how the Colts were "evil" just like Osama bin Laden. Yeah, it's funny to compare a football team to a man who had thousands of of innocent human beings murdered.
And while you say it's just a joke and that you "aren't the type that will throw you in the fire," Indiana is the state where the state's Speaker of the House (at the time -- February of last year), Brian Bosma, told leaders of the Indiana Jewish community that their concerns were irrelevant because Indiana Christians outnumbered them 40-1. And Indianapolis is a city where a recent mayoral candidate, Bob Parker, made openly anti-Semitic comments on the campaign trail. And Indiana has a pretty long history of Klan activity.
So you'll pardon me if I don't think it's funny if you jackasses make jokes about Nazis. You'll forgive me if I'm deeply offended. You'll understand when I hold your behavior up as evidence of your being an idiot. And you'll comprehend why people who make light of the murder of pretty much the entire immdediate and extended family of each of my grandparents piss me off so much.
by RSNexile on Oct 30, 2007 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not what Pats Pulpit is all about,
Stampede Blue is an embarrassment to SB Nation and a general disgrace.
This is nothing new. Anything goes over there. While other sites try to be inclusive communities, Stampede Blue is nothing but a hostile playground for unintelligent bullies.
That site is full of people calling others classless and hypocrites. If anyone has a slightly different opinion from them they are ridiclued.
I thought the site's operator might have some kind of ethics or morality and remove it. He's proven his character (pretty much what I knew already).
But in America, people have voices. If you want your voice to be heard, don't express your disdain here. Go to the SB Nation home page, scroll to the bottom and click on Contact Us.
by scsatr on Oct 30, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We had a perfectly nice
That page seemed to me as more of a satire on the riduculous hyperbole used about the pats. See my (shake n bake's) commet/link to Eastbrooks over the top rant.
by Shady Brady on Oct 31, 2007 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're still missing the point
by RSNexile on Oct 31, 2007 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Satire is a tricky thing...
the difficulty is when that group starts to try and tell a joke, the results are equally disastrous.
But then, I like Mel Brooks...
on a lighter note, Vinatieri or Gostkowski?(SP?)
by circusboy on Oct 31, 2007 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there was not a single genocide reference
I'm sure the Nazis were used because we can all agree that they were evil. Can't we?
by Shady Brady on Oct 31, 2007 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, that's a pretty weak excuse.
Maybe you have (or some Colts fan has) read George Orwell or some other literary author or maybe even seen a Disney movie that has a personification of "evil" (which, by the way, is a ridiculous thing to imply a team or coach is "evil" because they score a lot of points), so you could make a point, however invalid, about people -- we're talking about common everyday people, I think -- that you literally hate because they're fans of a team. I think it's disgusting.
Personally, I'd rather talk about football.
by tommasse on Oct 31, 2007 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Different strokes
by Shady Brady on Oct 31, 2007 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it doesn't matter, in your opinion ..
Just want to be clear why you consider it "dirty."
by tommasse on Oct 31, 2007 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he brought the elbow up to get Losman's knee
by Shady Brady on Oct 31, 2007 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no he didnt
by PaulRevere on Oct 31, 2007 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a matter of opinion
by tommasse on Oct 31, 2007 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, vapatsfan .. had to delete your comment
by tommasse on Oct 30, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's fair
by vapatsfan on Oct 31, 2007 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
This blog is about the New England Patriots, the NFL, football. This has gotten out of hand, and I am doing my best to stop it, so we can go back to talking about what we're supposed to be talking about.
by tommasse on Oct 31, 2007 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's all relax
To all involved parties, sorry that sometimes people don't think before they speak or are simply not capable of deeper thought. We here in New England are spoiled by the fact that we live in the most affluent and intelligent part of the country. That is a statistically supported statement but not necessarily a fact as such. As was also said earlier, taking up the discussion about Nazis is best done on SB Nation.
A final note on the word 'evil'. I am unsure of what everyone else defines as evil but my working definition would have to be "habitual violation of established moral paradigms local to the violator" (yes, those are my own words). I really do not see where the Patriots could possibly have fit that definition.
Let's all calm down now.
You da man, gooch.
by PaulRevere on Oct 31, 2007 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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