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Open Thread: New England Patriots vs. New York Giants, Week 17

The pro football world is just hours away from finding out if it's possible to go undefeated in a 16-game season. But let's be realistic: This is not a foregone conclusion. The New York Giants are 10-5 and playing at home.

Mike Carey will be tonight's head official. Carey's crew also worked Game of the Year, Part I, when your New England Patriots played Dallas. The Patriots had five penalties assessed for 50 yards, the Cowboys were penalized 98 yards on 12 penalties.

It's appropriate at this time to remember Patriots defensive end Marquise Hill, who died on Memorial Day this year while saving a life before losing his own.

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New England Patriots @ New York Giants
Giants Stadium, Dec. 29, 8:15 p.m.

While the rest of the league mourned Washington's Sean Taylor and required every team in the league to wear a sticker with Taylor's uniform number, Hill has gone all but forgotten -- except by the Patriots (who have worn a "91" sticker, smaller than Taylor's, on their helmets all season long) and their fans.

Hill, like several Patriots a graduate of Louisana State University, died in a jetski accident near his New Orleans home. Hill was a leader in Hurricane Katrina recovery efforts. He left behind a fiance and a son. Hill was a hero. Let's hope his team can honor Hill's memory today with a victory.

Enjoy the game, and Go PATRIOTS!!

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Patriots Inactives
In addition to Stephen Neal, Nick Kaczur, Kyle Brady, Kyle Eckel and Willie Andrews, who were downgraded to Out late Friday, the following Patriots are inactive for tonight's game:

WR Troy Brown
WR Chad Jackson
QB Matt Gutierrez (emergency QB)

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 7:05 PM EST   0 recs

Pregame poll results
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:15 PM EST   0 recs

There's no way this gets overturned
I thought the Patriots would have to waste a challenge on such an obvious call. I can't believe Coughlin is challenging.

Hobbs gave up a big play, as he's been prone to do. He's going to need some help from a safety.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:21 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 0, Giants 7, 1st Q, 10:59
7 plays, 74 yards, 4:01

Poor tackling inside the 10. One of the few scores the Patriots defense has allowed an opponent on their opening drive.

Be good to see New England answer on their own first drive.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:26 PM EST   0 recs

One of the few scores ..
.. and the only touchdown.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:27 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Excellent play call and 4th-down conversion
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:33 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 3, Giants 7, 1st Q, 5:19
12 plays, 54 yards, 5:40

Good drive overall. Maroney not getting much running into the line; line not opening holes. Watson dropped a pair of passes. The first was a little low, but no excuse on the second.

Defense needs start slowing down the New York offense.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:39 PM EST   0 recs

There you go .. good defensive series
Patriots stopped Jacobs on back-to-back runs, and then Toomer dropped the conversion.

Welker with a short punt return to the 50. Excellent field position.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:45 PM EST   0 recs

very....
soon to be 10-7 pats

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 8:48 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots benefit from defensive penalty
Line not blocking well enough on running plays.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:49 PM EST   0 recs

correction....
man that was a lot of pressure, but thankfully we got the penalty

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 8:50 PM EST   0 recs

Wes Welker passes Troy Brown earlier in the game
Welker has 103 catches on the season.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:50 PM EST   0 recs

Correction .. Welker has 104 now.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:51 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Why?
Why are we even trying to run the ball?!?!?!?

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 8:52 PM EST   0 recs

Helmet-to-helmet .. Wilson on Moss
No call. Classless Giants fans boo when Moss gets up.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:52 PM EST   0 recs

WTF?!?!?
No flag for the cheap shot on Moss?

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 8:53 PM EST   0 recs

End of 1st Quarter
Patriots 3, Giants 7

Patriots with a second down inside 5 yard line.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:54 PM EST   0 recs

TD -- Brady, Moss tie records !!!
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:56 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots break single-season scoring record
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:56 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

unsportsmanlike conduct?!?
what did they do?

by circusboy on Dec 29, 2007 8:58 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 10, Giants 7, 2nd Q, 14:55
8 plays, 50 yards, 3:41

Excellent drive. Great play action by Brady and Moss made a great play on the ball in traffic.

Why did they call that penalty on Moss? He spiked the ball. There was nothing on that replay to warrant a penalty. That's AWFUL!

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 8:59 PM EST   0 recs

History
Most Points
Moss - Ties Record
Tom - Tis Record

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 8:59 PM EST   0 recs

oh bugger...
I was momentarily happy to be leading...  

by circusboy on Dec 29, 2007 9:00 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 10, Giants 14, 2nd Q, 14:44
Free 7 points due to officials incompetence!

Patriots have to kick off from their 15 yard line. Another joke of the Patriots getting screwed by terrible referees.

Yes, the coverage may have failed, but that terrible penalty played a huge role.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:02 PM EST   0 recs

Hmmmm.....
Looks like the run is starting to be effective

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 9:05 PM EST   0 recs

Nice Kick
Damn ref cost us a touchdown. But I trust the Chokemaster's brother will turn it over this next series.

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 9:09 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 13, Giants 14, 2nd Q, 9:59
8 plays, 39 yards, 4:45

Gostkowski, 45-yard field goal. He earlier connected on a 37-yarder.

The good news on the Giants' kickoff return is that it put their defense back on the field. Hopefully, the Patriots are wearing them down a little.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:10 PM EST   0 recs

Bruschi held on that running play
Right in front of the play .. no call.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:13 PM EST   0 recs

Harrison with the pass defended on third down!
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:14 PM EST   0 recs

Nice call to Evans on 3rd down
Very quiet in the stadium at the moment.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:20 PM EST   0 recs

Ball off defender's head .. totally lucky
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:24 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 16, Giants 14, 2nd Q, 1:59
11 plays, 61 yards, 5:41

Another good drive, but not finishing them. Giants getting a little lucky, but that's football.

Patriots are dominating time of possession. Defense needs to keep New York from scoring before the half.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:26 PM EST   0 recs

No replay on the catch?
Giants tight end was very close to the sideline. Still no replay from NFL Network.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:31 PM EST   0 recs

There's another ridiculously weak call
Delay of game? That happens in EVERY game. It's never called. Like many rare calls, it goes against New England.

There was a lot of pushing and shoving, but Collinsworth of course takes New York's side.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:36 PM EST   0 recs

21 seconds left, Giants inside 5
Patriots D needs to come up big
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:37 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 16, Giants 21, 2nd Q, 0:13
8 plays, 85 yards, 1:36
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:41 PM EST   0 recs

Halftime stats
Brady: 17 of 22, 158 yds, TD
Manning: 9 of 14, 155 yds, 2 TD

Maroney: 12 carries, 37 yds
Evans: 1 carry, 4 yds
Faulk: 1 carry 0 yds
Manning: 1 carry, 11 yds
Jacobs: 7 carries, 7 yds

Welker: 6 catches, 61 yds
Faulk: 4 catches, 31 yds
Moss: 4 catches, 30 yds, TD
Watson: 1 catch, 21 yds
Stallworth: 2 catches, 15 yds
Burress: 2 catches, 62 yds
Boss: 4 catches, 50 yds, TD
Jacobs: 2 catches, 24 yds
Toomer: 1 catch, 19 yds

Hobbs: 3 solo tackles
Warren: 3 solo tackles
Sanders: 2 solo tackles
Wilfork: 2 solo tackles

Gostkowski: 3 for 3 FGs

Patriots just 1 of 5 on 3rd down

Time of Possession: New England, 20:00; New York, 10:00

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 9:50 PM EST   0 recs

Game of inches
And as a result, Patriots go 3-and-out to open the second half. On the shoulders of the defense again.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:00 PM EST   0 recs

Holding again on Jacobs run
right at point of attack .. no call
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:03 PM EST   0 recs

Holding again. I guess they're not going to callit
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:06 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 16, Giants 28, 3rd Q, 9:12
7 plays, 60 yds, 4:10

Defense missed several tackles. Long way to go. Offense needs to put more than FGs on the board.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:08 PM EST   0 recs

I don't think Gumbel has ever watched ..
.. a football game before. Brady, like Manning and several other QBs, milks the play clock. He always says that "he barely got it off." That's the plan, Bryant. That's how they run the offense.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:15 PM EST   0 recs

Sweet move by Welker
Could have been 3rd down, but he picked it up.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:16 PM EST   0 recs

Hey Tom
Hey Tom it's mack, hows everything? Well, not great as i can see. hey we lost to them to! lol

by Mack on Dec 29, 2007 10:19 PM EST   0 recs

Hey, Mack
Thanks for dropping by. It's not over yet.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:22 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Now this is better...
..but we need the defense to stop Eli Manning of all people.

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 10:21 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 23, Giants 28, 3rd Q, 04:00
8 plays, 73 yards, 5:12

Welker made a great block on Maroney's 6-yd TD run.

Let's go defense. Get that ball back.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:21 PM EST   0 recs

Sweet!
I love a sack

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 10:27 PM EST   0 recs

Defense still missing tackles ..
.. but they achieved the ultimate goal of forcing a punt.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:29 PM EST   0 recs

End of 3rd Quarter
Patriots 23, Giants 28

This is it.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:30 PM EST   0 recs

Gumbel
Should learn another word besides "big".

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 10:31 PM EST   0 recs

He should go back ..
.. to a mindless morning variety show.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:36 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Punt .. in the hands of the defense one more time
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:38 PM EST   0 recs

12:46 left
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:38 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Ya Know...
I'm starting to get worried here.

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 10:39 PM EST   0 recs

Huge 3rd down for the D with 12:19 to go
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:42 PM EST   0 recs

D registers the 3-and-out .. nice job
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:45 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Brady has been throwing high and low
Not his best accuracy game
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:46 PM EST   0 recs

OMG
How did Moss drop that pass?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 10:47 PM EST   0 recs

Brady underthrows .. Moss, wide open, drops it
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:47 PM EST   0 recs

BRADY TO MOSS!! RECORD TD
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:48 PM EST   0 recs

Brady 50 TD passes; Moss 22 TD receptions
The greatest, and the greatest!
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:49 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

2-point conversion -- Good!
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:49 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

History is made!
Moss - #23 - Better than Rice
Brady  #50 - Better than Peyton "Watch Me Choke" Manning

Pats make 2 point conversion - 31-28 Pats!

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 10:49 PM EST   0 recs

Though...
rice did do it in 12 games

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 10:51 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Patriots 31, Giants 28, 4th Q, 11:06
3 plays, 65 yards, 0:23

65-yd touchdown from Brady to Moss.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:50 PM EST   0 recs

Defense needs to make another stop
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:51 PM EST   0 recs

That call on Meriweather is TERRIBLE!
That hit was clearly in bounds!
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:52 PM EST   0 recs

Carey made the wrong annoucement
It was on Toomer.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:53 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Holding .. they finally called it.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:53 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots D takes 2nd timeout at 9:59
Remember that later. Giants have the ball 2nd-and-6 on their 27.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:56 PM EST   0 recs

HOBBS -- Interception!
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:57 PM EST   0 recs

Brady sacked
Giants very close to being offside, but replay looked like they were good.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 10:59 PM EST   0 recs

Great effort by Faulk to pick up 1st down
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 11:00 PM EST   0 recs

Welker makes the catch
Goes down .. stays in bounds .. keeps clock running
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 11:02 PM EST   0 recs

MARONEY!!!!
Who says we can't run the ball?

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 11:03 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots 38, Giants 28, 4th Q, 4:36
9 plays, 52 yards, 5:17

Maroney with a nice effort on the 5-yard TD run. Another 4th quarter comeback for Brady and the Patriots. All that time of possession wore down the Giants D, and it has showed on the last couple drives.

One more defensive stand seals the perfect regular season.

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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 11:06 PM EST   0 recs

Stupid penalty by Harrison
Stops the clock, allows 15 yards and gives up a first down. Dumb decision.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 11:07 PM EST   0 recs

No replay, of course.
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 11:08 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

2-minute warning
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 11:10 PM EST   0 recs

Giants have it 1st-and-10 on Patriots 16
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 11:11 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

2 minutes to go....
History awaits

by photonutz on Dec 29, 2007 11:11 PM EST   0 recs

Patriots call 3rd timeout with 1:16 left
Giants have it on Patriots 4, 2nd down
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 11:15 PM EST   0 recs

Giants call 2nd timeout .. 3rd down on Patriots 5
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by tommasse on Dec 29, 2007 11:16 PM EST   0 recs